Made in Chelsea: Jamie and Proudlock on Binky, TOWIE and the next single from the Three Lost Boys

Proudlock and Jamie - welcome back! What can you tell us about series five?

Proudlock: We've got new cast members - three new guys and a girl. Josh, the guy who's coming in, used to work for me.
Jamie: Josh used to work for Proudlock and Proudlock fired him!
P: No, we're all good.
J: After you fire someone!
P: I had to let him go.

That's a passive way of saying you fired someone...

P: I didn't fire him!

Whatever you say, Proudlock. What about the girls - have you been busy whisking them off on dates to Chelsea's trendiest watering holes?

P: There might be some of that...
J: Lots of flirting, as always. There's constant flirting but I think what Proudlock and I have decided is we've always gone looking for relationships and right now we're just going to sit back and see what happens.

Can we expect anything different from this series?

P: I'd say there's more drama.
J: Way more drama - it's a lot darker, more intense. Relationships have got deeper in, everyone's being very truthful. People try and hide stuff and then they realise you can't hide things now.
P: Everyone's just expressing themselves.
J: Obviously I'm very biased but I do genuinely enjoy watching our show more because you can see that it's real relationships and real friendships.

You all get together and watch the show as it goes out, don't you?

P: We do.
J: I thrive on it.
P: Jamie loves it - I hate watching myself on screen so for me I don't enjoy it so much.
J: I watch it and then go home and re-watch it. And pause it again and slow it down when I walk in.
P: He does print-offs...

Is that what decorates your house?

P: You go into his room and it's just shots from all the episodes.
J: "This is me really happy, this is me when I had that fight, this is me and Binks..."

Speaking of Binky (left), surely that was a little awkward last season, having to watch together as you behaved so badly towards her?

J: I'm very good at holding my hands up and saying when I've done something wrong. If you are a dick I think you just say, "I am a dick" and you move on. If you dwell on the whole situation and try to defend yourself, then it becomes bad.

So you and Binky are back on good terms?

J: We're on great terms. I realised my mistake and said I was sorry and we moved on from it. It took a while but we got there.
P: Do you still have feelings for her?
J: OH MY GOD.

Binky was just part of an action-packed series four for you, Jamie. Have you kissed and made up with Louise too?

J: I think at the end of last season I got too involved in their relationship and now I've tried to stay back from that and say, "whatever you guys want to do, you go with it". I'm not going to try and push anyone away or bring anyone near.

What about reports in the media recently that you and Francis were beaten up...

J: It got blown out of proportion - it was really nothing. I've had fights before and it was just another fight that the press got hold of.

So people are generally nice to you on the street?

P: Jamie gets shouted at a lot!
J: I do get shouted at.
P: "Troll, get out the way!"
J: "Faggot" is shouted at me a lot but I just go "Thanks!" You take it with a pinch of salt.
P: I'm actually surprised by how friendly people are.
J: If I saw a small blonde prick who was on TV just walking down the road, I'd chuck a brick at him. No, I wouldn't really...
P: I was expecting for it to be a lot worse when we started the show.
J: Especially as we're perceived as these young, posh kids who live off their parents' money. It's so easy to dislike us because it seems like we don't do anything - when everyone else is working, we do nothing - but it's actually not quite the case.

So why do you think the show's been such a huge success?

J: I think because it's an insight into a world that's only 2 per cent of the country so no one knows how this incestuous circle works.
P: The way it's shot is also a lot to do with it. Visually it looks amazing. It makes Chelsea look a lot better than it is!

How do you feel when people accuse the show of being fake?

P: Obviously it's real - we're put in certain situations but everything that happens is real. It's not like we're given a script telling us what to say.
J: And production get so angry if you phone up or have a conversation with someone before you're on camera.
P: They like to get your first reactions, because obviously we can't act so if we do then it's quite obvious!

That must be quite hard when your best friend sleeps with the girl you're seeing? (We're talking about you, Spencer and Louise)

J: But at the same time, if you've chosen to do this show you have to give your life to it. You can't do things off camera - it just doesn't work. We all want to make a great programme therefore you have that unwritten rule. It sucks but you just do it.

At least it leads to a potential music career... Following last season's musical spectacular, can we expect a future number one from the Three Lost Boys?

P: Funny you say that...
J: The Three Lost Boys want to gig around the world and have a number one. We've already had a number thirteen in the charts so we're trying to do a summer song. It's probably about what happens before the summer starts. It's aimed at young kids when exams are happening.
P: Just before the summer when everyone's getting excited.
J: It's very tongue in cheek. I find it slightly tragic if you're a reality star and then you go and try to be a popstar. Have you ever seen Lonely Island's We Just Had Sex? We're all about that kind of vibe. Imagine Pitbull but really over the top. And maybe in his hot tub.

So besides your plans to dominate the music charts, what does life outside Made in Chelsea have in store?

P: I'm doing lots of cool collaborations at the moment which are about to be released, and Jamie's got his Candy Kittens.
J: Candy Kittens are going good. I think if you go and do something like reality TV, which lots of people frown upon, you can either make it what you do and most people have a shelf life, or you can think beyond it and set up businesses and do all these things. I think it's so important to always look ahead and realise that Chelsea could last forever but the likelihood is it will end at some point so you've got to always be looking for the next step. I'm trying to get into presenting as well. It's always been my dream.

We reckon you'd make a great Blue Peter presenter...

J: A lot of them get addicted to drugs and die so I don't really want to go down that road.
P: You've got to be clever.
J: And if you look at TOWIE, they take themselves so seriously. At the Birmingham Clothes Show, I came back into the green room and there was Gemma Collins and Amy Childs with an entourage of thirty people. And then there was just me and my two mates sat on a stool.

So, for someone who's not a fan of Made In Chelsea, why should they tune in tonight?

J: If you like Cruel Intentions, you'll like this.
P: That kind of sucks if they don't like Cruel Intentions. I think a lot of why people like watching is because they can switch off from their own lives.
J: If you want to watch something different to normal reality then watch Chelsea because it's not fly on the wall, it's not forced, it's genuine real-life friendships and situations, lies and evilness and sweetness and happiness, all mixed into one in a ball of wonder.

Don't miss the Made In Chelsea "ball of wonder" tonight at 10:00pm on E4

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